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The following are excerpts from an interview by The
Door
with Mike Regele, author of Death of the Church. Mike
is also the founder of the demographics company, Percept. DOOR:
What's causing the death? REGELE:
First of all, we're in a time of tremendous change and it's change
itself that's causing a lot of this to occur. We're in this time of
transformation, where our economic structures, our intellectual
structures, everything is shifting. We hear a lot about moving from an
industrial age to an information age, for example.
Moving from modernism to post modernity. Those kinds of things.
Those by analogy are only understood as the kind of forces that changed
from the monolithic, the position the Roman Catholic Church held in
Europe, to the Protestant Reformation, the Renaissance, and ultimately,
the Enlightenment. It's that level of change. The fundamental
restructuring of society and the way it relates to itself. But
what we're experiencing is something very different from what most human
beings have ever experienced. Change has never come this quickly.
Basically, the church is caught in a paradigm shift from the modern to
the post modern world. The weight of tradition which we've had going for
us for 2,000 years is gone. In the past, people subscribed to a
tradition because in a pre‑modern world there were no other
options. If you were born into European civilization after Constantine
there was no question that you were Christian. And if you were out on
the edge of the empire, you were either converting or losing your head. Well
in the post modern world, the choice thing has been completely
existential, so that, ultimately, I am a consumer for what I'm going to
believe to be real. And the problem for the church is that it's not used
to operating in an environment like that ‑ kind of a
free‑market environment, where it has to go out into the market
place of ideas and try and tell its story. Look
in your average Presbyterian Church. In the back on Sunday morning, look
out over the congregation. What color do you see? Gray. And
if you turn around in the front, it's white - Anglo. That is our
reality. And the only group worse is the Methodists. We have a
phenomenal generational disconnect. We have a racial/ethnic disconnect. We've
been talking about inclusivism now for a long time. But we're less
inclusive now than we've ever been. We are woefully under-represented by
all racial ethnic groups other than Anglos. We're
also having a generational disconnect in that we talk about three adult
generations what we call the builders, or the GI generation that fought
in World War II, or the silents or the generation that wasn't quite old
enough to get to fight in World War II, but went into middle management;
as well as the boomers. There's a tremendous disconnect between the
boomers and the traditional mainline Protestant denominations- they just
aren't there. And if we've disconnected from these younger generations,
and we're not doing the job connecting with these generations, then
you're not going to be around. It's not terribly hard to figure out. DOOR:
This is all the way across the Christian spectrum? REGELE:
Yes. Although certain traditions are having more trouble with it than
others. The biggest problems are with the historic, mainline traditions.
So that would be all the Presbyterian denominations, the United
Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church (although the Episcopal Church is
doing better than most), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and
the Missouri Synod Lutheran. The Roman Catholic Church is actually doing
a little better with the younger generations. I don't know why, but
their numbers aren't quite as bad.
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